Alt 29-08-2013, 13:36   #1
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President Obama is considering military action against Syria that is intended to “deter and degrade” President Bashar al-Assad’s government’s ability to launch chemical weapons, but is not aimed at ousting Mr. Assad from power or forcing him to the negotiating table, administration officials said Tuesday.

A wide range of officials characterized the action under consideration as “limited,” perhaps lasting no more than one or two days. The attacks, which are expected to involve scores of Tomahawk cruise missiles launched from American destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, would not be focused on chemical weapons storage sites, which would risk an environmental and humanitarian catastrophe and could open up the sites to raids by militants, officials said.

The strikes would instead be aimed at military units that have carried out chemical attacks, the headquarters overseeing the effort and the rockets and artillery that have launched the attacks, according to the options being reviewed within the administration.

An American official said that the initial target lists included fewer than 50 sites, including air bases where Syria’s Russian-made attack helicopters are deployed. The list includes command and control centers as well as a variety of conventional military targets.

Perhaps two to three missiles would be aimed at each site, a far more limited unleashing of American military power than past air campaigns over Kosovo or Libya.

Some of the targets would be “dual use” systems, like artillery that is capable of firing chemical weapons as well as conventional rounds. Taking out those artillery batteries would degrade to some extent the government’s conventional force — but would hardly cripple Mr. Assad’s sizable military infrastructure and forces unless the air campaign went on for days or even weeks.
Quelle:
By THOM SHANKER, C. J. CHIVERS and MICHAEL R. GORDON
Published: August 27, 2013, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/28/wo...rike.html?_r=0
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Alt 01-09-2013, 01:19   #2
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Es wird wohl keinen Syrien-Angriff geben. Der Kongress wird ablehnen.
Jeder einzelne der dort versammelten Repräsentanten wird sich fragen: "Wie viele Dollar verdiene ich persönlich mehr, mit welchen Argumenten unterstützt das meine spätere Wiederwahl - wenn ich dem zustimme?"
Die Antwort lautet: Keine!
Damit ist das abgelehnt.
US-Politiker interessieren sich i. d. R. nur für sich selbst. Obama ist da wohl eine der ganz wenigen Ausnahmen.

Interessant:
Obamas Syrien-Strategie: Fluch des angekündigten Krieges
Von Markus Becker
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...-a-919701.html

“Does the administration intend to submit a supplemental appropriations request to Congress, should the scope and duration of the potential military strikes exceed the initial planning?” Boehner asked.
Weil eine $-Nachforderung von Obama in der Sache Syrieneinsatz im Falle eines unvorhergesehenen Verlaufs nicht ausgeschlossen werden kann, und weil die anstehende Schlacht im Kongress im Herbst wg. der Schuldenobergrenze furchtbar sein wird, werden die Republikaner hier mehrheitlich streiken.


Congress Should Reject An Attack on Syria
By Daniel Larison • August 31, 2013
http://www.theamericanconservative.c...ttack-on-syria

Das alles sei nur "an internal Syrian conflict." So argumentieren die Chinesen und Russen auch. Das Chemiewaffen-Argument wird überhaupt nicht verstanden, weil es moralisch basiert ist. Die US-Repräsentanten ticken so schon lange nicht mehr. Moralische Verpflichtung wegen irgendwelcher Werte? Das wird überhaupt nicht kapiert!
Wichtig ist nur Geld, Macht und evtl. noch Sex. Ende der Werteskala dieser Leute!

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Alt 07-09-2013, 09:57   #3
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What the U.S. military knows of Syria
Friday, September 6, 2013, http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../-1/FOSOPINION


U.S. military officers have deep doubts about impact, wisdom of a U.S. strike on Syria
By Ernesto Londoño,August 29, 2013, http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...y-strike-assad

Gen. Dempsey Responds to Levin's Request for Assessment of Options for Use of U.S. Military Force in Syria - 19.07.13 http://www.levin.senate.gov/download...2-c47d943b1db6

Monday, September 2nd, 2013
Pentagon pushback: Joint Chiefs said to oppose Obama’s Syria strike order
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/09/...-strike-order/

Latest Martin Dempsey News:
http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/wh...in-dempsey.htm

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey has told Obama that a strike on Syria will end in involvement with Iran and Russia. Senator John McCain responded that Dempsey’s warnings are “disingenuous.” (=unaufrichtig , unredlich)
by Maggie • September 2, 2013
http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birth...d-2466352.html

US military intervention in Syria would create 'unintended consequences'
General Martin Dempsey, top military officer, warns senators that each option under consideration would be costly and uncertain

Spencer Ackerman, Monday 22 July 2013, http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...rvention-syria


General Dempsey's warnings could go unheeded if Obama opts to strike
A multi-tour command veteran of the Iraq war, Dempsey has repeatedly highlighted the risks of US involvement in Syria

Spencer Ackerman, Thursday 29 August 2013, http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ey-obama-syria

President Obama could lose big on Syria in House
By JOHN BRESNAHAN and JAKE SHERMAN | 9/5/13
Zitat:
the resolution to bomb Syria has only a “30 to 40 percent chance of passing right now.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2eC8Hb2Bd

House Might Not Vote on Obama’s Syria Resolution
By John Fund, September 6, 2013, http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...tion-john-fund
Zitat:
Congressional aides in both parties tell me that the chances of President Obama winning House approval for military action in Syria are so bad they actually doubt the House would ultimately vote on it if failure seemed certain.
Zitat:
The Washington Post’s more conservative count stands at 204 “no” votes, only 13 short of the majority needed to kill the president’s request.
Zitat:
undecided members — the moderate Republicans and the Democrats who usually vote with fellow Democrats and Obama — keep coming out of classified and unclassified briefings even less likely to support the plan.

Upon coming out of a classified briefing on Thursday, Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D-N.H.) said that she was opposed to a strike on Syria "now more than ever."

And the public is even further behind. Just 29% of Americans support military strikes on Syria, while 48% oppose, according to a Pew Research Center poll released on Tuesday. Obama said that he will address the nation from the Oval Office on Tuesday night. But how many people will one address really persuade?
Quelle: Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/syria...#ixzz2eCFA7ijp


Majority of House leaning ‘no’ on Syria resolution
By Chris Cillizza and Aaron Blake, Published: September 6,
Zitat:
As of Friday afternoon, there were 223 members in the “no” or “leaning no” category, more than the 217 that would be needed to sink the resolution. (The threshold for passage in the House is 217 votes, rather than the usual 218, since there are currently two vacancies.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...n-in-congress/

Wenn nur 2,7% der 223 Ablehner zu Unterstützern würden, dann gäbe es ein Patt (Nach den Zahlen der washingtonpost.com)

News-Suche zu House+vote+Syria: https://www.google.de/#q=House+vote+Syria&tbs=qdr:d

Timing:

US-Senatsabstimmung: 11.09.13

US-Repräsentantenhaus: House, which currently has 433 members, with two seats vacant. 216,5 ist die Hälfte. Also 217 = Mehrheit.
Next Meeting: Sept. 9, 2013 http://beta.congress.gov/

The resolution may not reach the chamber until the week of Sept. 16. Also that week, the UN may report on the laboratory analysis of samples collected by a UN chemical weapons inspection team at the site of the Aug. 21 attack. The team won’t make a judgment on who initiated the assault.

That timetable approaches the start of UN General Assembly session, which Obama is scheduled to address Sept. 24. A U.S. attack just before or during the UN session would risk a stream of speeches critical of the U.S., which would undercut any message Obama may hope to send Assad and his supporters. The inspectors’ report will be important for U.S. allies, most of whom haven’t supported a strike publicly so far.
Geküzt zitiert aus: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ine-grows.html

Zitat:
Barack Obama may not be able to seek overall congressional support for an attack on Syria for as long as a fortnight, amid signs he has failed to build an international alliance at the G20 and still faces the prospect of heavy defeat in the House of Representatives.
Zitat:
Unless both Houses adopted the same resolution, which is unlikely, additional time would also be required to synchronise the two resolutions in order for a unified congressional position on the limits of force to emerge.

The slow timetable would give the White House longer to win over opinion, as well as increase the possibility that the UN weapons inspectors will report definitively on whether chemical weapons were used on 21 August.
Quelle: Obama may have to wait two weeks for Congress vote on Syria http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ess-vote-syria

Damit ist wohl gemeint, dass frühestens in the week of Sept. 23 ein Kongressergebnis vorliegen dürfte? 11.09.13 + 2 Wochen = 25.09.13.

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